{"id":14940,"date":"2018-04-24T17:15:14","date_gmt":"2018-04-24T17:15:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.rootsfinder.com\/blog\/?p=14940"},"modified":"2022-03-09T05:06:55","modified_gmt":"2022-03-09T05:06:55","slug":"ruhama-price-or-leonard-bass","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rootsfinder.com\/blog\/ruhama-price-or-leonard-bass\/","title":{"rendered":"How I Solved It: Brick Wall Ancestor | #3 Ruhama (Price) or (Leonard) Bass"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ancestorarchaeology.net\/2017\/04\/brick-wall-ancestor-3-ruhama-price-or.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-14971\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rootsfinder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Ancestor-Archaelogy-300x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rootsfinder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Ancestor-Archaelogy-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.rootsfinder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Ancestor-Archaelogy-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.rootsfinder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Ancestor-Archaelogy-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/www.rootsfinder.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/12\/Ancestor-Archaelogy.png 900w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Anne Faulkner, the blog&nbsp;author from&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ancestorarchaeology.net\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Ancestor Archaeology<\/a>, has shared this blog as part of our ongoing \u201cHow I Solved It Series\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>This blog reviews an ancestor with surname conflicts. Some said Price, some said Leonard. Between record searching and asking for help on Facebook, she was able to find the key piece of information that confirmed which surname was correct.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->We all have them! Those stubborn ancestors that refuse to come out of hiding. No matter how much coaxing we do! Well, I think it&#8217;s time to bring them out of the shadows &#8211; put their redacted story out there &#8211; another piece of the puzzle could be lurking just around the (cyber) corner, in someone&#8217;s basement, or closet, or sitting in a box on a book shelf &#8230;&#8230; You never, ever know where that loose chink will manifest, the one that allows you to push out one brick, then the next. Food for thought. So without further ado&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p><b>Brick Wall Ancestor #3 Ruhama (Price) or (Leonard) Bass<\/b><br \/>\n<b><br \/>\n<\/b><br \/>\nThis one is maddening! Maddening! It&#8217;s the kind of thing that makes you begin to question everything you know. Or think you know.<\/p>\n<p>From my grandmother&#8217;s notes I learn that <b>Nathan Bass<\/b> b. 4 Nov 1775 in VA d. 7 Sep 1849 (<i>location not specified<\/i>) married <b>Ruhama <u>Price<\/u><\/b>&nbsp; on December 25th 1796 in KY. Her notes say that Ruhama was born 30 Sep 1777 in New Jersey and died 21 Oct 1853 in Indiana.<\/p>\n<p>No parents are given for either Nathan or Ruhama. No sources or citations are given either as to where the information was obtained back in 1950 when she typed up these notes. Of course the concept of citing your sources is fairly new, but still a notation would have been nice! OK, the Bass part is easy, Nathan didn&#8217;t change his name when he got married. But Price? Where did that come from? How do we<i><b> know<\/b><\/i> that her name was Price? (&#8216;Cuz my grandma said so!?)<\/p>\n<p>Anyway.<\/p>\n<p>That is the starting point.<\/p>\n<p>Ruhama &#8216;<i>Price<\/i>&#8216; b. September 30th 1777 in New Jersey somehow ended up in Kentucky 19 years later and married Nathan Bass. I mean, it could happen. People moved around, many headed west. At 19 I would suspect she moved with her family however, and not by herself.<\/p>\n<p>So, what have I found? Not a whole heck of a lot, I can tell you. (Hence the whole &#8216;Brick Wall&#8217; thing)<\/p>\n<p>I found two conflicting marriage documents on Ancestry. They are electronic &#8216;transcriptions&#8217; of the actual records.<\/p>\n<table class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-MtGc5lNbDTE\/WPFKfsYeAAI\/AAAAAAAABw8\/ueHxVl6yTg8wm5Z01Bti5-cecG1Flwu5gCLcB\/s1600\/Nathan_Leonard.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-MtGc5lNbDTE\/WPFKfsYeAAI\/AAAAAAAABw8\/ueHxVl6yTg8wm5Z01Bti5-cecG1Flwu5gCLcB\/s400\/Nathan_Leonard.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"241\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Nathan Bass marries Roema Leonard<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" href=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-IipuMtobOgo\/WPFKhqe9zaI\/AAAAAAAABxA\/NrPZ-3IwozwxZ8XngHeFBkuPOjDdFgONACLcB\/s1600\/PriceMarriage.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-IipuMtobOgo\/WPFKhqe9zaI\/AAAAAAAABxA\/NrPZ-3IwozwxZ8XngHeFBkuPOjDdFgONACLcB\/s400\/PriceMarriage.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"253\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Rewhamy Price marries James Reeves<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Ancestry warns: &#8220;<b>Finding the Original Marriage Record <\/b><i>Unfortunately, Liahona Research did not indicate which sources were used in this process, nor did they provide citations for the origin of each entry. However, careful researchers who wish to examine the original source will find sufficient information to lead them to that source. Most early American marriages were recorded by the county (except in the northeastern states) and this collection provides the county for virtually every marriage. Original microfilms can be obtained from the Family History Library.&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<div><i>&nbsp;<\/i><\/div>\n<div>ARGH!!<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I can not find the corresponding records on FamilySearch, I&#8217;ve combed over the <a href=\"https:\/\/familysearch.org\/wiki\/en\/Green_County,_Kentucky_Genealogy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">wiki<\/a>, I must be missing something. I posted my query to the RAOGK facebook page, meanwhile busying myself with some wheel-spinning &#8230;..<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Breaking a cardinal rule of mine I checked other people&#8217;s online trees.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Well, there&#8217;s a laugh. Or a cry.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<div style=\"clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;\"><\/div>\n<p>Some say her name is Ruhama Leonard Price (or Ruhama Price Leonard), other&#8217;s have Nathan marrying Rowena Leonard <u><b>AND<\/b><\/u> Ruhama (or Ruhanna) Price. The people in the Price camp declare Stephen Price and Hannah Chandler her parents. I have no idea where <i><b>that<\/b><\/i> came from &#8230;. (Sources? What sources!? Oh, right, OPPT**!! Of course! That and &#8216;Family Data&#8217; collections &#8211; those are my favorite &#8230;.)<i>&nbsp; &nbsp;**other people&#8217;s public trees<\/i><\/p>\n<p>No help. I knew it wouldn&#8217;t be, but I looked anyway &#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>OK. Next step. Check the census records.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s look at Green Co, KY. First census available in 1810.<\/p>\n<p>Nathan(ial) Bass is listed in Barren Co (shares a border with Green) with 7 children under 10 years old, 3 boys and 4 girls.* And next door? William Leonard. <i><b>Huh<\/b><\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>For grins I checked James Reeves. He&#8217;s in Green Co. His neighbors? John Price and Horatio Chandler. <i><b>Hmm<\/b><\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>The Bass Children include:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Elizabeth R. &nbsp;b. 10\/17\/1797 (KY) d. 2\/16\/1862 (KY) m. Wm. Hind 3\/20\/1817 (KY)<\/li>\n<li>Sally W. &nbsp;b. 8\/8\/1799 (KY) d. 2\/27\/1819 (KY) m. John Hind 12\/19\/1817 (KY)<\/li>\n<li>William <b>Leonard<\/b> b. 1\/8\/1802 (KY) d. 3\/16\/1885 (IA) m. Margaret Roberts 7\/3\/1824 (KY)<\/li>\n<li>Josiah L. b. 11\/10\/1803 (KY) d. 3\/28\/1884 (IN) m. Elizabeth Robinson 3\/13\/1829 (KY)<\/li>\n<li>Susan W. b. 11\/16\/1805 (KY) d. 5\/22\/1843 (IN) m. Nathaniel Owens 5\/31\/1827 (IN)<\/li>\n<li>Charity C. b. 12\/2\/1807 (KY) d. 1\/5\/1836 (IN) m. Obidiah Simms 10\/14\/1828 (IN)<\/li>\n<li>David G. b. 11\/20\/1809 (KY) d. 1\/25\/1877 (MI) m. Sally Jones 9\/29\/1831 (IN)<\/li>\n<li>Jonathan I. b. 2\/29\/1812 (KY) d. 4\/14\/1874 (IN) m. (1) Emily Hall 11\/23\/1837 (IN) (2) Louisa Dritt (widow)<\/li>\n<li>N. Woodford b. 6\/18\/1814 (KY) d. 10\/18\/1888 (KS) m. Mary Ann Sears 8\/21\/1842 (IL)<\/li>\n<li>A. Jackson b. 2\/1\/1817 (KY) d. 10\/18\/1891 (KY) m. Nancy LNU 3\/12\/1843 (KY)<\/li>\n<li>Thomas W. b. 7\/29\/1819 (KY) d. 2\/18\/1895 (IN) m. Mary Jane Crane 2\/16\/1845 (IN)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><i>*this lists matches the 1810 census<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Timeline for Ruhama Bass is as follows:<\/p>\n<p>1777 &#8211; Birth. September 7th. New Jersey, somewhere. Maybe.<br \/>\n1796 &#8211; Marriage in Green Co, Kentucky. Well, Kentucky.<br \/>\n1800 &#8211; Residence in Green Co, KY as documented on tax lists and census substitutes<br \/>\n1810 &#8211; Residence in Barren Co, KY as documented on US Federal census<br \/>\n1820 &#8211; Residence in Barren Co, KY as documented on US Federal census<br \/>\n1830 &#8211; Residence in Bartholomew Co, IN as documented on US Federal census<br \/>\n1840 &#8211; Residence in Bartholomew Co, IN as documented on US Federal census<br \/>\n1849 &#8211; Husband Nathan Bass died. September 7th. Buried in Boone Co, KY at the Salem<br \/>\nPredestinarian Baptist Church cemetery. Daughter Elizabeth is buried there<br \/>\nas well.<br \/>\n1850 &#8211; Residence in Pleasant Co, IN (in household of son David) as documented on US<br \/>\nFederal census. New Jersey birth confirmed.<br \/>\n1853 &#8211; Death. October 21st. Buried in Bartholomew Co, IN at the Flatrock Baptist<br \/>\ncemetery. Two daughters (Susan and Charity) are buried there as well.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"float: right; margin-left: 1em; text-align: right;\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a style=\"clear: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" href=\"https:\/\/s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com\/find-a-grave-prod\/photos\/2011\/120\/69193271_130428081300.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com\/find-a-grave-prod\/photos\/2011\/120\/69193271_130428081300.jpg\" width=\"159\" height=\"200\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center;\">photo by Cris West &#8211; Find A Grave<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Thanks to 21st century technology (internet!) I was able to find Ruhama&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.findagrave.com\/cgi-bin\/fg.cgi?page=gr&amp;GSln=bass&amp;GSiman=1&amp;GScid=1877541&amp;GRid=69193271&amp;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">grave<\/a> &#8211; pay no attention to the Find A Grave notation &#8230; it&#8217;s conjecture at this point. But the grave stone is real and the death date lines up with my grandmother&#8217;s research. (note: I contacted the man who maintains the memorial and requested info on where he obtained her maiden name and the other &#8216;bio&#8217; notes &#8211; he has not responded)<\/p>\n<p>As I was finishing typing this up I got a reply to my facebook post.<\/p>\n<p>Whoo boy! Guess I just didn&#8217;t know where to look.<\/p>\n<table class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-jYbHLbvFmpA\/WPJfVVAFW9I\/AAAAAAAABxg\/YowdQrbchJQrjHkOLDilv2liewcvkIFZwCLcB\/s1600\/Bass_Leonard1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-jYbHLbvFmpA\/WPJfVVAFW9I\/AAAAAAAABxg\/YowdQrbchJQrjHkOLDilv2liewcvkIFZwCLcB\/s400\/Bass_Leonard1.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"281\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Wm and Sarrah Leonard give Roema permission to marry Nathaniel Bass<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" href=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-6L4RnJQHExs\/WPJfXWshjSI\/AAAAAAAABxk\/3fInsHaJdy4ph6NuMzSciwPJDmF8IgrDwCLcB\/s1600\/Bass_Leonard2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-6L4RnJQHExs\/WPJfXWshjSI\/AAAAAAAABxk\/3fInsHaJdy4ph6NuMzSciwPJDmF8IgrDwCLcB\/s400\/Bass_Leonard2.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"292\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Marriage license issued to Nathan Bass and Roema Leonard 12\/22\/1796<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" href=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-nriYs8Z6y1U\/WPJfjFpKxHI\/AAAAAAAABxo\/m-EQFZTIViUJT3g3h0NLb8oQ4eNH39BuQCLcB\/s1600\/Reeves_Price1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-nriYs8Z6y1U\/WPJfjFpKxHI\/AAAAAAAABxo\/m-EQFZTIViUJT3g3h0NLb8oQ4eNH39BuQCLcB\/s400\/Reeves_Price1.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"225\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Marriage intent between James Reeves and Rewhamy Prise<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table class=\"tr-caption-container\" style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"text-align: center;\"><a style=\"margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-ei7tJIdAw5k\/WPJflEO2kLI\/AAAAAAAABxs\/84BtwX4uSzsf9ZDBl5rHIecgxzHE1vulACLcB\/s1600\/Reeves_Price2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-ei7tJIdAw5k\/WPJflEO2kLI\/AAAAAAAABxs\/84BtwX4uSzsf9ZDBl5rHIecgxzHE1vulACLcB\/s400\/Reeves_Price2.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"333\" border=\"0\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Marriage license issued to James Reeves and Rewhamy Prise 12\/16\/1796<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Okey dokey. All righty then.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Now what?<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Where exactly did that <b>Price<\/b> name come from? And how did Ruhama&#8217;s name go from Roema to Ruhama? Did Roema Leonard Bass die and Nathan married Ruhama Price, perhaps a widow?<\/div>\n<p>Oh the questions, the questions &#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>One document does not a proof make, but it is a start &#8230;&#8230;..<\/p>\n<p>+++Just to throw more &#8216;wood on the fire&#8217; &#8211; there is also a marriage bond for a Nancy Bass signed by her father Josiah on December 27th 1796&#8230;&#8230;..<i><\/i><\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>If you have a story idea or a blog that you\u2019d like to share as part of this series, please let us know about it in the comments.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Anne Faulkner, the blog&nbsp;author from&nbsp;Ancestor Archaeology, has shared this blog as part of our ongoing \u201cHow I Solved It Series\u201d. 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